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Maria Konnikova on Cheating in Poker: Ban Electronics & Sunglasses

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Editor & Live Reporter U.S.
Hosts:
Connor Richards @CRichards1995
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Maria Konnikova @mkonnikova

Life Outside Poker is a new podcast for PokerNews hosted by Connor Richards that seeks to pull back the curtain on poker players and allow viewers and listeners to get to know them on a personal level.

In the 18th episode, Connor speaks with author and psychologist Maria Konnikova about her family leaving Russia to come to the US, writing her first story in kindergarten, being mentored by Steven Pinker at Harvard, meeting Erik Seidel for the first time and her 2020 bestseller The Biggest Bluff that explored her poker journey.

Konnikova, a PokerStars ambassador, also talked about her research for an upcoming book into cheating in poker and other games, as well as game integrity rule changes implemented at EPT Barcelona that Konnikova said needed to go even further.

"I think what PokerStars has done is amazing. I think you need to go a step further and not have any electronics anywhere on the table," said Konnikova. "Like, I think phones need to be on the floor, in your bag."

"I would actually also ban sunglasses because ... there's so much technology that (that can enable cheating)."

This interview was filmed in Spain during the 2024 PokerStars EPT Barcelona festival at Casino Barcelona.

Look out for a keyword in this episode as part of a $10,000 Gold Pass giveaway to NAPT Las Vegas!

The Life Outside Poker podcast is available on major streaming platforms including Apple Podcasts, Spotify and iHeartRadio. You can also watch the interview with Maria Konnikova by heading to the PokerNews YouTube channel.

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Time Stamps

TIMETOPIC
0:00Intro
1:09EPT Barcelona 20th anniversary
2:35Parents leaving Russia
6:25Writing
10:27First story
14:36Mastermind: How to Think Like Sherlock Holmes
18:44Being mentored by Steven Pinker
25:37The Biggest Bluff
27:34First time meeting Erik Seidel
31:55New cheating methods in poker
36:22Should sunglasses be banned?
39:46Upcoming book on cheating in games
40:57Being a PokerStars ambassador
44:53Women in poker
47:16Risky Business podcast w/ Nate Silver
52:07Book recommendation
52:37What makes you hopeful?
54:49Advice for younger self
56:05Favorite life lesson from poker
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Connor Richards is an Editor & Live Reporter for PokerNews and host of the Life Outside Poker podcast. Connor has been nominated for two Global Poker Awards for his writing.

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